12:40 <rtl> slightly OT: what do people generally use permissions-wise when multiple user are deploying?

12:41 <rtl> I've got a deployers group, and non-owner's in that group are getting "can't unlink" errors

12:42 <rtl> I'm guessing because group execute isn't set on the directory... rather, sgid is, so new files get the right perms

12:47 <rtl> I removed sgid from everything, and added group execute, now it works.. but new files get the user's group, not the deployers group

12:57 <rtl> I've seen an example of someone using a task to reboot group perms, but it'd require prompting for sudo

23:40 <concernedcitizen> hi guys, how do you guys manage your daemons during a cap deployment? how can one rollback (ie. stop a daemon) if a deployment fails?